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Ethical AI for Small Businesses — Jonathan Goodman (The Business Gay Podcast)
Publisher: The Business Gay Podcast •
Duration: 29:09 •
Published: June 4, 2025
Jonathan covers practical, ethical AI adoption for small businesses—from lead-capturing chatbots and scheduling to voicebots, inclusive design, and getting started safely without heavy lift.
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0:01 Hey Jonathan, welcome to the podcast. 0:04 Thank you so much for joining me. How 0:05 are you doing today? I'm doing great. 0:08 Thank you so much for having me on this. 0:09 Yeah, I'm really excited. AI is kind of 0:12 exploding all over the world. It's the 0:13 to-do topic. I've not really chatted 0:15 about it with anybody. So, I'm really 0:18 excited to dive into into this topic 0:20 with you. So, with that, let's just get 0:22 right into it. Um, what are some simple 0:26 ways entrepreneurs can use AI to 0:28 automate parts of their business? Cuz I 0:30 know that as a small business person and 0:33 a lot of people out there, there's a lot 0:35 of fears of like there's so many tools. 0:38 You don't want to pick the wrong one, 0:40 but you also know that it can help you. 0:42 And so, what h how can you help us 0:44 navigate that a little bit? Yeah. A lot 0:46 of people assume AI is this complicated, 0:49 expensive thing, but you can actually 0:51 start really small and still see a big 0:54 impact. For example, uh one of the 0:56 easiest wins is setting up a chatbot on 0:59 your website to answer frequently asked 1:01 questions or capture leads 24/7. I mean, 1:04 that alone can replace hours of 1:07 repetitive work. Another great starting 1:09 point is automating appointment 1:12 scheduling. connecting an AI assistant 1:14 to your calendar, it helps so much with 1:18 booking instead of going back and forth 1:21 with emails. Um, and for folks doing a 1:24 lot of outreach or marketing, Howard 1:27 Consulting specifically builds voice 1:29 bots that can answer calls, qualify 1:31 leads, or even send follow-up emails 1:34 after a conversation. So, we don't look 1:37 at it as replacing people. It's about 1:40 freeing up your time to focus on what 1:43 actually grows your business. Yeah. 1:45 Making things a little bit more 1:46 efficient so you're not doing so much of 1:48 that groundwork that you're just getting 1:50 straight to the point. I want to jump in 1:52 a little bit more with that chatbot. How 1:55 could somebody implement that on like 1:57 they're not they don't have a crazy 1:58 website. They just need something simple 2:01 to kind of get the the juices flowing. 2:03 Somebody might be thinking, "Well, this 2:05 chatbot has no idea really who I am or 2:07 what I'm about or how to answer these 2:09 questions." And a lot of these small 2:11 businesses hold them so preciously that 2:14 they're afraid to hand that over. So, 2:16 how might that actually look at the 2:17 beginning? Yeah. You know, so many of 2:21 the chatbots that are out there on the 2:23 market right now are what we call 2:25 rules-based, which means that when 2:28 you're coming in to have a conversation 2:30 with the chatbot, it's expecting certain 2:33 questions to be asked and it's able to 2:36 answer those questions. That's a really 2:38 old way of doing things that doesn't 2:40 incorporate AI. Ours incorporates AI. So 2:44 we have you can almost kind of think of 2:46 it as like you know I don't know two 2:48 balls in the air right and one of them 2:51 is the large language model and usually 2:54 that would be like perplexity or would 2:57 be uh chat GPT or something like that 3:00 and then in the other you know globe or 3:03 ball whatever you want to call it is 3:05 this knowledge brain right and we fill 3:08 that knowledge brain with everything 3:11 about the company. We scrape the website 3:14 so we understand the content that's on 3:15 the website. We ask for any any 3:18 documentation, maybe your business plan, 3:20 maybe your marketing plan, strategies, 3:23 uh you know what your you know any kind 3:25 of press releases, anything about that 3:28 company. So that on a very simple 3:31 lowcost loweffort chatbot that that does 3:35 not capture lead genen or do calendar 3:37 integration. So just on a very very 3:40 purely I'm a chatbot and I know about 3:43 this business you can get a lot of 3:46 answers a lot of questions answered 3:49 because the chatbot understands that 3:51 business. Okay. So how would you 3:54 implement like an email capture into 3:56 that chatbot if somebody were to put 3:59 that on their website? Because I know 4:00 usually you'd have like a oh join my 4:02 newsletter here or the this there. How 4:04 could that be implemented in that 4:05 chatbot? Yeah. So what so then we kind 4:08 of go up a level in the ability of the 4:11 AI chatbot which is lead genen right 4:14 lead genen and calendar integration. So 4:17 that means that at some point in the 4:20 conversation with the chatbot and you 4:22 can see this on our website 4:24 howard.conulting you can go in and ask 4:26 it a question. It's going to be able to 4:28 answer that. If you ask it a second 4:30 question we've triggered it to then ask 4:33 you if you'd like to schedule an 4:35 appointment. If you'd like to schedule 4:36 an appointment, the first thing that it 4:38 asks you is what is your name? What is 4:40 your email? What is your phone number? 4:43 And what company do you work with? Well, 4:45 now we've captured all that data. Plus, 4:47 we're capturing all of the conversation 4:49 in the chatbot going back to the client 4:52 so they can see it. And then it 4:54 integrates into that client calendar. 4:56 So, let's say that somebody wanted to 4:58 have a meeting with me tomorrow at two 5:00 o'clock. the calendar, the API 5:04 connection to the calendar would check 5:06 to see what my availability would be for 5:08 that moment, for that two o'clock 5:10 meeting, and come back and either I'm 5:12 available for it or it would suggest 5:15 several other days or times. Okay. So, 5:18 it seems like it's it's fairly simple 5:20 and straightforward and easy for 5:21 somebody to do this then to build it or 5:24 to deploy it to to deploy it onto their 5:26 website. Yeah. cuz I'm thinking about a 5:28 lot of small business owners not aren't 5:30 necessarily tech forward people or 5:32 techsavvy folks. They you know a lot of 5:35 them are creatives or this that and the 5:36 other and this can you know make them 5:39 very nervous to implement this onto 5:41 their systems and so it sounds like it 5:43 is quite fairly straightforward 5:45 currently to do that. Yeah, there are 5:48 two things that the client has to be 5:51 involved with in addition to providing 5:53 us the knowledge for the knowledge base. 5:55 They have to connect their calendar to 5:58 our systems which is not difficult. Um, 6:02 and just kind of goes through a form, 6:04 asks you a couple of email questions. 6:06 What is your email? Blah blah blah. Who 6:09 are you what are you using? Google Meet? 6:11 Are you using Google calendar? Are you 6:13 using uh Calendarly? Whatever it is. And 6:15 then it connects to that. Once that's 6:17 done and we have the knowledge base, 6:19 within a 48 hour period, that client is 6:22 then going to get a little snippet of 6:24 code that they're going to have to put 6:26 onto their HTML. Now, I realize and we 6:29 realize that this is definitely a 6:32 blocker for some companies. And so for 6:35 those companies, we do a free service. 6:37 We will come in, we will connect into 6:39 your backend, and we will put that code 6:41 into the header of that homepage. And 6:44 then it replicates across all pages. ... (Transcript continues exactly as provided in your message)